Healing Minds: Kelly Price on New Frontiers in Mental Health Medicine

What if trauma could be treated as an injury to the sympathetic nervous system rather than a life sentence? Join us as we sit down with Kelly Price from Reset Medical and Wellness Center, who shares her inspiring journey from the automotive industry to becoming a beacon of hope in trauma treatment. Motivated by her son's experiences as a firefighter, Kelly highlights the critical importance of preventative therapy for first responders. Through personal stories, including my own triumph over childhood trauma, we explore the transformative potential of understanding trauma in a new light and the innovative therapies available for healing.

Discover the unexpected mental health benefits of neurosympathetic reset treatments and how existing pain management medications can provide relief for conditions like long COVID, menopause, ADHD, and OCD. We delve into the world of off-label uses, showcasing personal anecdotes where these treatments have offered clarity and calmness in lives previously dominated by chaos. The conversation sheds light on the need to reduce stigma surrounding mental health and embrace unconventional yet effective solutions that shift focus from past traumas to future possibilities.

Our journey continues with the establishment of a mental health treatment center in Ohio, dedicated to providing affordable care through therapies like the stellate ganglion block and ketamine treatments. These treatments aim to calm the hypervigilant states linked with trauma, helping first responders and ot

Spiritual guru, two-time #1 best-selling author, and higher consciousness advocate Shaman Isis (aka Cynthia L. Elliott) is on a mission to turn the tide of the mental and spiritual health crisis with mindfulness practices, incredible events, powerful content, and motivational storytelling that inspire your heroes journey! Learn more about her books, courses, speaking engagements, book signings, and appearances at ShamanIsis.com.

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Chapters

• 0:57 Kelly Price
• 7:59 Exploring Neurosympathetic Reset for Healing
• 22:52 Healing and Hope Through Neurosympathetic Treatment
• 28:42 Healing and Mental Wellness Discussion

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:57

Hello, hello, hello and welcome to Citizen Journalist. I'm your host, cynthia Elliott, also known as Shaman Isis to those of you who've read my books or taken any of my spirituality courses, and we've got an awesome episode for you today. I'm really actually looking forward to this topic because I have wanted to talk about wellness and healing and trauma PTSD for a while and today we've got the incomparable Kelly Price joining us from Reset Medical and Wellness Center to talk about all of those topics. Welcome, kelly.

Speaker 2: 1:27

Thank you. Thank you so much, Cynthia.

Speaker 1: 1:29

Yeah, Do you think you could share a little bit about your? You have a really interesting story. Do you think you could share a little bit about yourself with our guests?

Speaker 2: 1:38

Sure. Well, first of all I spent about 30 years in the automotive industry, so nothing related to PTSD or trauma or anything else. But when I sold my company although I'm still actively involved in the board and different things like that I was very involved. I have a nonprofit called Changing Lives Foundation that helps people in catastrophic need so house fires, sudden illness, injury, so basically traumatic type events and had been running that for a while and through a lot of my different missionary type things I got involved in a couple of documentaries and when I learned about a documentary following a doctor that was helping people with PTSD, immediately I said does that help with firemen?

Speaker 2: 2:31

Because my son is a fireman in the local community here and suffered a lot from, you know, ptsd, from the emergent. You know, get out of bed, you have a minute and a half to get dressed and you have no idea where you're going. You could be going to a fire. You could be going to a lift assist. You could be going to you know, a suicide, anything like. There's so many different things. So they suffer greatly and I don't think we give enough account. Yesterday was national first responders day and I just thought you know, so many people don't know what these guys go through every single day in the trauma that they live with in the suicide rate is about 20% after they retire Wow. So I, as soon as I my son when he started into it was recommended to get in therapy like once a month as a preventative measure so that he wasn't harboring things that he saw going on. But I could see like a lot changing in him and the insomnia and not being able to sleep, and so when I heard about the treatment, I immediately said does this help, firemen? And the answer was yes. So I went and took him for treatment and by the time I got there, I just knew like I had to do something more to spread the news about this, because whether you're suffering as a fireman or you know, I went through a lot of things as a child that you know.

Speaker 2: 4:06

People have gone through. You deal with it one way or another. Like I happen to be one of those people that I took my trauma and I made like some people like go around it and they're like I'm just never going to be that person. I'm going to be something different. Some people end up being in a very bad situation. Some people end up on the street. Some people end up in a lot of different situations.

Speaker 2: 4:29

I was like the overachiever side of it, but you still live with all that trauma and you know things inside of you and so everybody I knew like when I started looking into it has something going on that is affecting you know their sympathetic nervous system and we often think like, oh, you're depressed. You know, strap up your pants, get your boots on. You can do this. You know what I mean. Just shake it off. Well, when you realize that PTSD or trauma or depression can actually be an injury to your sympathetic nervous system and that it can be healed to allow you to do things like talk therapy, exercise, meditation, you know that type of stuff, it just became a passion for me and a drive, because I really just want to do things to help people as much as I can.

Speaker 1: 5:21

Oh, I love that. I love that. I love that you were inspired by your son's career. I did not know, excuse me, I didn't know the statistics were. I knew it wasn't great for policemen as well, but I didn't know it was 20%.

Speaker 1: 5:35

Wow. So for those listeners who aren't familiar with my work, you should go to vishamanisiscom. You can check out my books there, and I only bring that up because I've written three books. Two of them are about spirituality and conscious living, and in both those books, particularly in Memory Mansion, I share my journey to self-love and just to. For those who aren't familiar, I'll quickly share a little bit about that story because I think it's relevant to our conversation here.

Speaker 1: 6:08

I grew up in care, in an orphanage, in foster homes, and my foster father spied on me for years, followed me everywhere. I went hung out with a creepy group of men who liked to do horrible things, and when I ran I decided that I was never going to tell anybody anything that had happened. And so I ran off and they found me in California and I ran to New York in the 90s and I created this incredible life for myself, but it was like a lie, because I wouldn't even use my real name, because I was still afraid of being found, but also afraid of finding myself and facing myself, and eventually I ended up, you know, having this incredible career while simultaneously no one actually knowing my real story and never talking about anything that ever happened, never getting help for any of it. And then one day in my a few years back, I woke up to how miserable I was. I had been depressed for 10 years. I was incredibly overweight, I never did anything, I never went anywhere and I was dealing with a severe case of CPTSD.

Speaker 1: 7:04

And the books really share that journey to self-love. It's one of the reasons why I do the work that I do to raise human consciousness, because I believe it's one of the main ways to answer the mental health crisis in our world, and we have a lot of people who need help. So I'm thrilled to have Kelly here to talk about trauma and healing and the fact that you've discovered the you've recently. This is so. So, for those of you listening, kelly has multiple business interests, but in a wonderful background. But she also has a clinic. Would you? Would you call it a clinic? Is it a medical?

Speaker 2: 7:37

center. Yeah, it's basically a medical center that is focused. I mean, we only do a couple of different things. One of the main thing we do is a neurosympathetic reset, which is a stellate ganglion block that has been used for 100 years. It's nothing new. The medicine's been around 100 years.

Speaker 2: 7:59

You've all probably actually had the medicine, whether if you've had just either a local injection or, you know, maybe a epidural or different things like that. It's the same medicine, just used in a different way, very similar to you know, botox was created for one thing and now used for many things off label. The same idea is that we're just using the same treatment that's covered by the FDA for pain. It's the same exact treatment, but it's being used for mental health, long COVID menopause. We've actually seen some people with bulimia and anorexia have some effects on it, although that hasn't been studied. But my son-in-law actually um, had been bulimic since 2009,. Did not tell anybody Um, and after he got the treatment, he came to me and said just so you know, I haven't thrown up since I've had the treatment and it's amazing to me because bulimia is one of those things that you can't hardly shake.

Speaker 1: 8:59

Um.

Speaker 2: 8:59

And so it's one of the hardest addictions to shake off and it's been nine or 10 months, I think he's had one or two episodes. So just pretty amazing that the work that's being done, like I said, even though not covered by insurance because it's not approved by the FDA for this type of use, but it's being used off label all the time and I just felt very compelled to want to do something to help people in their mental health journey. But for me, it helped me with my menopause I was having 35 to 40 hot flashes a day and although I didn't, I guess, what you would say profile for PTSD, anxiety or depression, hypervigilance, anything like that, I had been through it all but, as my therapist would say is, I'm an overachiever. So I just went around all those emotions and went ahead and did what I needed to do, but I have found so much calmness and clarity, even though I did it for menopause. My ability to focus is like night and day difference.

Speaker 2: 10:12

So it helps a lot with ADHD, um OCD, different things like that.

Speaker 1: 10:19

Yeah, I think this is. It is an interesting conversation. So, for those of you who aren't familiar that, familiar with healing uh, particularly healing, uh, traumatic experiences and I think I think most of us have had traumatic experiences it's it's a scale, but not a comparison, and some people have just had repeated ones or such such vividly traumatic ones that, um, uh, it damages the their system, like in the case of being in an abusive relationship with a narcissist. It actually changes your brain, it changes the human body yeah.

Speaker 1: 10:54

And excuse me, and so when, when somebody is attempting to heal, it can be incredibly difficult. I know this from first hand experience because of the years. It took me years of practicing different behaviors and I still have the rare, rare, occasional episode. But it took years of practicing new thought habits and rigidly, like catching myself, to be able to put myself in the types of positive energy that would allow my nervous system to repair. But a lot of people don't have that time. I took advantage of the closures. A lot of people don't have that advantage, or just, you know, kind of luck out. I sort of lucked out in the frame of mind I was in. But a lot of people need help being able to reboot as you and I discussed before we started filming to reboot their system so that they can then do the things like meditation and yoga, which may be overwhelming for somebody who who's cycling through their, their trauma, and so, yeah, this is interesting. It allows people to get a grip, would you say.

Speaker 2: 11:59

Yeah, you know it's. It's very funny because we work with a lot of mental health professionals. Chiropractors, dentists, like a lot of people are seeing the impact of the sympathetic nervous system play into like a lot of different things chronic pain, fibromyalgia. We had a person come in that suffered from fibromyalgia really, really bad, and by after having the treatment she said it's the first time in years she's woken up without pain and been able to sleep.

Speaker 2: 12:32

So it really your sympathetic nervous system controls so much. But I guess how I would look at it. Cynthia, somebody said to me give me an idea, how does it work. We had a therapist that said to me you know, I've spent 10 years working with the same patient and we spent 10 years talking about the past. And she said I would say we looked in the review mirror for 10 years and once they had the neurosympathetic reset done, she said now we're talking out the front windshield, so we're talking about what's moving forward and how we're going in the processing, what happened.

Speaker 2: 13:13

But how can we move forward in it, versus staying in the back windshield or looking out the back, the back rear view mirror, all of the time? So I always describe it just because I like analogies. I always describe it like you would a computer reset.

Speaker 2: 13:30

If your computer wasn't working or your iPhone wasn't working and you called tech support, the first thing they would say to you is have you restarted it or rebooted your system? I need you to do a hard reset. I need you to turn it off and turn it back on. I need you to update the systems and then all of a sudden, magic, the computer start working again or your phone starts working a little bit better. Generally that reset allows you to begin, or the computer to begin processing again, and it's very similar to that and I think what we, you know for many years, the stigma around mental health or PTSD, is that it's a disorder and that you should be able just to think your way out of it, like you should be able just to, you know, strap on your big girl boots and, you know, be a big girl and get through this or be a macho guy in.

Speaker 2: 14:26

You can do this and it's mind over matter and that type of thing, but they don't realize is that it's an over matter and that type of thing, but they don't realize is that it's an actual injury to the sympathetic nervous system. There's actually an entire campaign going on trying to get the word PTSD changed to PTSI, because PTSD stands for post-traumatic stress disorder. Disorder medically means it's incurable and but what they're finding is that the reset of the sympathetic nervous system actually is an injury to your, your sympathetic nervous system. So the nerve endings sit kind of like in an inflamed state constantly.

Speaker 2: 15:08

And when you do a reset of the sympathetic nervous system, it allows it to calm down in those nerve endings, to heal. And so they're finding that it's actually an injury to your sympathetic nervous system and not a disorder. And so there's a lot of time to get that changed so that it's no longer looked at as a disorder, that it's looked at as an injury.

Speaker 1: 15:31

Yeah, no, no, sorry, I got. I got excited for a second there. I hate the word disorder as well, because it sounds like like like a messy drawer or that you've made a choice Like I hate that. Mental health disorders it's like you know, and a lot of that that whole thing is based on somebody else's perception of what well looks like, absolutely Conformity. I always say I've said this in a podcast that I did by myself. One day I was like conformity is not mental health. Can we stop that?

Speaker 2: 16:01

Yeah, I have a sign in my kitchen that says as far as anybody knows, we're a. We're just a normal, happy, normal family. You know what I mean. But inside we know that you know there's a lot more going on.

Speaker 1: 16:14

Yeah, it's so true, and I appreciate that they're trying to do that movement because, as somebody who's who's reworked my nervous system, I can tell you that it was incredibly challenging. I had to take myself off of every medication that I was taking because it was it was interfering with my ability to really heal. So, like the first year and a half, I was on medication that I took for a really severe injury that I had gotten years back, and that is not a process I want anyone to have to go through, because I did it on my own, by myself, and it took six months to actually feel normal again. Anyway, that first year and a half I couldn't quite, I couldn't understand why I was struggling with the healing process. And then I realized it's like, you know, because you're taking prescription medication which I'm not criticizing people who do, but in my case it was actually interfering with my ability to heal.

Speaker 1: 17:08

And then that next year and a half was writing a memory mansion and going through everything and uh, and I you know even like just my, just my reactions. So, so and I don't normally talk this much in the podcast, but because I have PTSD, I think it's it really helps in this conversation. Um, I the the, the speed at which I can react to anything that happens somebody raising their voice, a book dropping on the floor, something flying at me, like I can just, you know, catch it without even looking up, Like it's nuts, because my nervous system is so. What's the phrase you kept using earlier?

Speaker 2: 17:47

Well hypervigilant, I think, and that's you say something that reminded me like I had a patient. He's actually autistic, high functioning autistic, owns his own business, does a lot of computer programming and writing a lot of AI technology. I mean, like super, super wicked smart said, you know what happens is that I there? You know, most normal people process something on a scale of one to 10, they hear a noise, they think about it, they think do I need to respond? Is that something that I should be worried about? You know what I mean. And then, once you hear, oh yes, that is something I should be worried about.

Speaker 2: 18:28

Or you look at a bear and you realize you're being ready to be chased. You have that element of working yourself up to a point of reacting and then you figure out the best way to react instead of sitting like at a nine on a scale of one to 10. In the second, something happens, you react. So when you said that you can just like pick a book out of the sky that's falling, because you're sitting there at a very, very hypervigilant state, all the time and that's your nerve endings that are damaged or injured.

Speaker 2: 19:01

And actually, if you look at a functional MRI of somebody at rest that has PTSD and somebody at rest that doesn't have PTSD and you look at the MRI side by side, they're both sitting at rest. The MRI of the person with PTSD is lit up in red. The MRI of the person at rest that doesn't is like yellow, green with a little bit of red. All of us have a little bit going on, right, but it's amazing, like even in an MRI you can see PTSD and so or PTSI and that is what we're healing is that sympathetic nervous system and there's just it's, it's allowing you to process. So we always say it's like when you have a fight or flight system, intentionally, like God gave it to us because we need to know if we're being chased by a bear, that we need to run.

Speaker 1: 19:54

Right.

Speaker 2: 19:55

But we need to also be able to know when not to run and when it's okay. And when we are injured in that way and our sympathetic nervous system is injured, we just think we need to run all the time, or we need to curl up in a ball and be in what they call flight mode or, like one of my friends is I was telling you before we started sat in frozen mode no emotion, no hypervigilance, no, you know, sitting in a corner, just no emotion at all, no laughter, no crying, no anything. The first time she had cried in almost 20 years was after she had the sympathetic or the and on the table right away, started crying and she's like I feel like my straight jacket has been released and I can actually feel love. And that's the first thing she said and I have it on video. It's just, it was so crazy to me because that is when I knew that this is something that can help so many people and these are not people.

Speaker 2: 20:55

She wasn't in a war, she wasn't a first responder. You know what I mean. She just went through a lot as a child and nowadays I mean just social media can give us trauma or an election Right.

Speaker 1: 21:08

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I can see that's happening to a lot of people. An election Right, yeah, yeah, yeah, I can see that's happening to a lot of people. Yeah, you know, it's hard to describe to people who who don't have that I've, I've healed so much. I mean I've done, I've done a lot of. You know it's been a lot of work and that's one of the reasons why I share all those techniques that I look at my healing workbook and all that other stuff emotional mastery, but it is, it is a a lifetime project, and getting a reboot from being able to get some a procedure done to help people's reset so that they can then really approach their healing strategically is is such an incredible shift in the perspective.

Speaker 1: 21:49

Perception of it was kind of like, um, like I remember having this conversation with, uh, my ex-husband's aunt, when she said just get over it. Yeah, to me, and I had and here's the funny thing I had never literally said anything to her. I finally opened up and her very baby boomers response was we'll just get over it, and it was like right, that's like.

Speaker 2: 22:11

Just they didn't talk about anything in the past.

Speaker 1: 22:14

Yeah, yeah, yeah that was about her, it wasn't about me, but it was that sort of attitude that that that's what we were brought to to just do, but that just causes people to disassociate uh so, yeah, I don't have uh.

Speaker 1: 22:27

For those of you on the healing journey, it does get better with practice. Practice is everything, everything, um, uh, it's it's I do like. Every couple of months I'll have uh. It depends on how much stress I have going on in my life, but maybe a couple every couple of weeks I'll have a moment where, uh, my nervous system has a flashback. Uh, so how long have you been doing uh, uh, the procedures?

Speaker 2: 22:52

So, um, I learned about the treatment last November. My son got treated and my son-in-law in December. I wrote the business plan between Christmas and new years, went and got treated myself um in January, january 8th and 9th, and then um decided that I wanted to open a center and we had it open by April 4th.

Speaker 1: 23:16

So wow, that's incredible. Yeah, yeah, you guys are based in Ohio.

Speaker 2: 23:22

Yes.

Speaker 1: 23:23

Yeah, yeah. So you guys are just just patients flying from all over the country.

Speaker 2: 23:27

Oh, we have actually had people fly in from all over the world. We've had people that flew in from, um, south Africa, um, I just it's pretty crazy because the nice thing is is you can get treated in. You get treated on one side one day and the next side the next. You do it in your sympathetic nerve or your stellate ganglion, um block, or your stellate ganglion and um. You do it one side and we can't do both sides each day, just because of the numbing. We want to make sure you can swallow and stuff, so, um, but it is, it's simple, it's easy, it's not ongoing. You don't have to continually go every single week. You know we do ketamine treatments for depression when prescribed by a mental health provider. We don't just like give out ketamine. So from a negative perspective, it's a very, very low dose. Non-addict, you know, non-addictive over a long period of time. But if you don't live near us you have to do that like for weeks at a time.

Speaker 2: 24:25

And then, you know, non-addictive over a long period of time, but if you don't live near us, you have to do that like for weeks at a time and then you know to get that healing, and so it's great for people local to us and we actually do it at $200 a treatment, which is probably less than half, if not one third, than every mile.

Speaker 2: 24:40

And we do that because we really. I mean, our mission is just to provide hope and healing to people, and I'm in a unique situation. I sold my company in 2020. This is an absolute missionary effort for me. When we break even all of our post-its, we'll go back to a foundation called Erase PTSD, which helps people get these treatments that can't afford them. So we have different ways that if people can't afford them, we can help them through a grant, through a raised PTSD. We have same as cash, but we try to keep the cost as low as we possibly can to get the mental health in America or all over the world to be a better place.

Speaker 2: 25:22

Because, you know, if you thought about it, I'll just give you this to think about when you talk about hypervigilance and you said hypervigilance, I had a patient that she is. I've known her for a long time, but she's extremely like. She lights up so fast. Like you know, just angry, angry, angry, really really super fast, fast, like you know, just angry, angry, angry, really really super fast. She came in for a treatment on Thursday and Friday and she called our nurse on Sunday and she said I just need you guys to know you probably saved my life, wow. So our nurse, sarah, said well, tell me a little bit about that, why do you say that? And she's like well, I was driving in downtown Cleveland.

Speaker 2: 26:06

I got T-boned by somebody. It was their fault, I didn't do anything wrong, I got out of the car. Normally I would have got out of that car on fire, like, super, like. You know what the heck are you doing, you know, probably with bigger words than that. And she said and I got out of the car very calm, which I normally would have never done.

Speaker 2: 26:23

And she said I he got out of the car very, very upset and I tried to calm him down and he pulled a gun on me. And she said all that I could think of is and I talked him down and he got in his car and he left. And all I could think of is if I had reacted the way I would have three days before, would have three days before I probably would have been shot. So what my motive is in our mission is if we can calm that hypervigilant, chaotic state of the only way we know how to deal with things is hyperreactive and making a decision.

Speaker 2: 26:59

I have a friend whose brother, like, got very upset. He's a concealed carry permit, normally not a violent person at all, but got very upset at a bar. They were just there and got picked on and went out to his car in a very hypervigilant state and came back in and shot the person. Now it's not him to be like that, but when you are sitting at that state of constant hyper vigilance and you get immediately, I don't know, bothered, bullied, whatever it is.

Speaker 2: 27:33

These children and adults and everything, are making very fast decisions that we wouldn't normally make each and every day.

Speaker 2: 27:42

And so if we can calm that down and start to heal our sympathetic nervous system that allows people to begin to process, then think of what better the world would be. And if all that we did is prevent one person from getting shot, you know, because they reacted positively. I mean to me, my mission's done, I'm not done. I want to do a whole lot more, but I mean there's different ways that we can help in our world.

Speaker 1: 28:09

And.

Speaker 2: 28:09

I mean, I'm a big person for talk therapy, but talk therapy is 20 to 25% efficacy rate, emdr 30, 35%. But think of it, if you could have your system reset and then you go do talk therapy, think of how much more productive you would be. And so the efficacy rate of this treatment is about 80 to 85%. And even though it may not heal everything, but if you're sleeping better, we all know that good sleep leads to better decisions each day. And we had a fireman we're actually going.

Speaker 2: 28:46

He hosts mental health awareness things for first responders. We're doing an event on Friday and I just said to him he's retired and he goes out and he helps first responders on the scene at very traumatic events when something really bothersome is happening. He's there for their mental health, only to be there with the first responders during the event while it's happening. And he got treated and he said I didn't realize how depressed I was, how much lack of motivation I had, even though he's a teacher of new firemen and he does this mental health and he goes out and he does these things. He said personally I had been carrying around 35 pounds I hadn't been able to get rid of.

Speaker 2: 29:30

I've lost 35 pounds in three months. I didn't even it's not even like I went out and said but I just getting out of bed and exercising every day because I'm not blocked emotionally, I'm, I'm sleeping through the night, I don't have my tears, I mean all the different things, so little things that we can do each and every day, I think will help people to be better humans overall you know, religion, political belief, whatever it is like, everybody can use it.

Speaker 2: 29:59

We had a, a trauma therapist, come in and get the treatment and she is. She was just interviewed by CBS news when they were in and she said that she said every adult human really needs to do this and it's not going to hurt you Like, if it doesn't help you. It's not going to hurt you other than, maybe you know, a couple thousand out of your pocket. But that's about it.

Speaker 1: 30:21

Right. Yeah, the sleep thing is something that I don't sleep very often. I don't sleep for long periods. I do dream again, which is a big deal for me. Yeah, I don't. I don't know if people I think you there needs to be like more awareness around CPTSD or CPTSI and how it affects your life. I don't react very often. I do get. It's funny. So like I'll just share a funny story. So I'm on the subway a couple months ago and this man who was acting very erratically he was clearly homeless and he comes and the train empties and he he runs over and slams himself in the seat next to me and proceeds to do something that is not appropriate to do on a train, we'll just leave it like that and I, instead of like reacting, I just leaned over and I was like run.

Speaker 1: 31:22

The reason why I share that is that a situation like that, I remain my blood pressure. Actually I feel it my blood pressure.

Speaker 1: 31:29

in traumatic situations like that, my blood pressure slows down because I'm so accustomed to weird crap happening and and yet I can absolutely lose my crap over somebody not not doing what they say they're going to do, or you know, it's so funny. It's like the. My PTSD gets set off by by things that I don't think would set most people off and yet I stay really calm and really weirdness in really really strange situations.

Speaker 2: 31:59

Well, it's funny that you say that, because they always say to my son he does so well under stressful situations, like he actually goes from like his ADD to like super hyper-focused and he can think really, really fast, and that is like the same thing. It's like that supernatural power that comes out from what you've been through in the past that allows you to really focus on really strange things that most people would get very panicked over.

Speaker 1: 32:26

Yeah, it's kind of an odd thing. He did run off the train, by the way.

Speaker 2: 32:31

He couldn't get out of there fast enough.

Speaker 1: 32:33

Yeah, I unleashed the demon on him for a second. I was like you need to look in my eyes because I'm serious. I grew up in Memphis in the seventies. You know, girl, things are just different back then. That's right, oh my goodness. So people wanted to learn more about, um, the work that you guys do. Where would they go visit?

Speaker 2: 32:53

So they could well. The the really cool thing is we have um a pro profiling. That's called a mental health assessment, our website, and you can get one for free. But what I like about it is it's like a fitness tracker. So we have a fitness tracker that we count our steps and we do all that. This is like a mental health tracker Basically.

Speaker 2: 33:19

Once you take the mental health assessment, every so often it will give you another one to retake. So it kind of measures where you're at mentally. Um on the PTSD, so there's PCL5, gad7, phq9, which is anxiety, depression, ptsd, then fatigue and insomnia, and um, add or ADHD we always look at too, because those are all signs of you know, something going wrong with our neurosympathetic reset system or our sympathetic nervous system, and we want to be able to help you measure that. So we use it because we want to know a pre and post. But even if you don't come in to get the treatment, you can get a mental health assessment for free and kind of keep taking it. It's just going to keep sending it to you and it gives you a comparison score of where you were at last time to this time.

Speaker 2: 34:14

Obviously, if you're in therapy or you're doing different things or you've changed your lifestyle or you're exercising, you know those things may change on there. So it's a really good thing. But you can go to the reset centercom so it's T H E R E S E T center, c E N T E Rcom and just request a free mental health assessment. There's a lot of testimonials on there Um different things about it, how the neurosympathetic reset works, that type of thing that type of thing?

Speaker 1: 34:42

Uh, that's awesome. Uh question before I forget and close out the show Um, I, as a uh ADHD person, uh, which is one of the reasons I'm asked for such a long time, uh, does it, does it, the, the product, uh help with um meltdowns?

Speaker 2: 35:10

with um meltdowns, yeah. So again, it's really allowing you to process better on a slower scale. So it allows you to think through your reaction, versus just that immediate reaction of either melting down or curling up in a ball and going into a corner. You know, like there's a lot of people that they don't react in a negative way, like, or a hyper vigilant way or an emotional way. They just actually retreat, because that's how, so like if they're criticized, instead of understanding it and talking about it, they'll just go like I'm not good enough, I can't do anything, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2: 35:42

So I mean it really. If you think about just allowing you to process in a normal I would say normal not many of us are normal but in a in a more calm state, it allows you to do that. So it's going to help you, regardless of whether you're, you know, in like a meltdown state or if you're in like a hypervigilant or reactive state.

Speaker 1: 36:09

Cool, cool, Gosh Callie, that was great. I enjoyed speaking to you and the audience learned a lot.

Speaker 1: 36:19

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Speaker 2: 36:55

I'd love to be able to put that as a resource for our patients as well. We give them kind of a five-step guide to after the treatment, like because it's so important you're going to process again, you're going to be able to heal more, that you continue on that journey and you kind of change the what you've been doing. So I think that's amazing because it would be a really good step for them.

Speaker 1: 37:19

Yeah, yeah, it's a really. It's very thorough, like the program. I'm really happy with it. It took me it only took me three and a half years to get it all together and I was like, okay, this all makes sense, like it really makes sense. So it's the process that I put myself through, the things that really worked, that I've seen work with clients.

Speaker 1: 37:36

So go check out Raising Consciousness, rocking Life and, if you're in the uh, oh, you know what, check out my events. I was going to share an event I have coming up, but I'm not sure when this is airing, so we don't want to do that. But, um, I do have a code queens, uh, conscious, um, uh, living summit. I'm not saying this right. I have code summit coming up in february, um, uh, or I should say in the spring, um, so you can check that out on the website as well. That's going to be really interesting A lot of powerhouse women coming together to speak and do host panels on all different topics. So, anyway, go check that on the website. And if you're not already subscribed, what are you thinking? Intelligent listening, I love it. It's so rare. So subscribe and thanks for all your support. You guys have an amazing, amazing uh week. I'll be back soon enough with another episode of citizen journalist bye.

Speaker 2: 38:32

Thank you for having me. Bye-bye oh.